Meta recently launched Threads in a seemingly rushed state likely aiming to capitalize on Twitter’s recent actions, missing features such as Digital Markets Act compliance and ActivityPub support.
Some communities have decided to preemptively defederate them as soon as that gets implemented under fears of them repeating what google did with XMPP by using “Embrace, Expand until no one else can keep up” tactics, while others have claimed those fears are overblown.
I’d say let’s federate with them
They’ll surely love our content!
:^)
I think we’re safe, but I wouldn’t put it past those other lemmy instances to bend to the will of facebook to be facebook compatible.
If this happens, you might see the very first defederation from our end. lol.
Let’s be honest, the first podunk blog to associate us with a corporate entity like Facebook is resulting in immediate defederation on Facebook’s end. I’m overall cool with defederating any megacorp/government instance tbh.
In theory good because we absolutely need interoperability between services.
In practice I know this is just meta trying to find a way to harvest data on as many users as possible. I hate that if I interact with a user on threads that likely means Facebook is getting my data which sucks because I want the service to be open but I don’t want to subject myself to privacy invasion.
Plus the whole embrace, expand, extinguish thing which I don’t think is overblown at all. It’s literally how these corporations work by design.
I’m not seeing any issue with the scorched earth approach of defederating on this one. Facebook isn’t a good actor acting on the greater good here. They just seem to be hoping to pick up on Twitters current weakness while they have a nutjob as a CEO. They want market dominance and profits selling user data and ads.
Kinda worrying tbh. With Meta being Meta, I’m afraid they’re trying to capitalize the whole Fediverse and farming more data at the same time. I really hope other instances start defederating them. Let them be their own walled garden.
If this happens it’s likely we will defederate with them over privacy/security concerns. So, you wouldn’t have to worry much about that happening here.
Agreed.
Also I found this to be funny:
“Your thread on Threads has been deleted.”
Threadception
I mean they probably will defederate us first…
They could do embrace extend extinguish
New to the whole fediverse thing, but if any instance I’m on federate with Facebook/Meta, I’m leaving that instance.
I was done with Facebook since 2013 and don’t plan on ever becoming a product after a decade.
100% agreed.
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Hope we stay federated. As one of the only instances out there. 😎
I definitely think they pose a threat to the overall health of the Fediverse. Nothing good has ever come from Mark Zuckerberg, and Threads wouldn’t be using ActivityPub if he didn’t think he could wrangle control of the standard itself from us like the aforementioned ruining of XMPP.
They won’t like us. After all, there’s no conflict or outrage here for them to profit off of.
I was on FB since college in 2005. I was on when it was college kids only, then high school kids, then our parents. As FB wanted more money I saw the decline each time. Whatever they touch becomes corrupt and unholy. I doubt it would halogen but if Burggit federates with Threads then I’m out. I want to move away from corporate.
Tbh there’s no way Meta will try to federate with this instance anyway, judging by what kind of content is posted here.
